my lazy indicator mod by gazza190



gazza190
hi everyone. done a little mod on my car. i drive a newish ford as a company vehicle and it has a very handy feature which i rather miss when i drive my zt. the indicators will flash 3 times with a quick press on the stalk which is very handy especially for motorway driving.

i recently have done a project to fit daytime lights on my car and thought as i had some of the bits already i would give this new task a go. it was very difficult especially as the indicator stalk talks digitally to the lighting module so only one wire is used to transmit both left and right signals. there were several wiring designs and a couple of prototypes but i got there in the end. everytime i thought i had worked it out there was another feature or problem i found. the main snags were

1 parking lights would not work once system deactivated
2 indicate left then right but left would carry on for the 3 flashes
3 battery would be discharged if indicator left on

im very happy with it and it works perfectly. i made quite a neat job of it in the end.

the mod works on both normal and message centre button type stalks. i have also since added a 3amp inline fuse to make it safe and fitted my system with a kindly donated message button type stalk

It could be done to flash 3, 4, 5 times. Whatever is required

Some pics and info on the procedure I carried out

i took the stalk apart to inspect

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i then broke the pcb track to take away and modify the signals

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and made sure there was no longer any continuity

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i then soldered on my piggyback cables

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and routed them through a new hole i made

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i then routed the cables through a grommet in a project box then started the wiring process. the setup shown was my final result. now i have a master wiring diagram it should be neater next time

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i then loomed the wires in a plastic shroud and left the pos and earth wires protruding

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i then soldered the pos cable to pin 3 of the wiper stalk connector which is switched live

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i then soldered the earth wire to the black/grey earth wire on the indicator wiring plug

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i then continued to install the system on the car

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the box cable tied to the steering column loom

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a short video i made of it working

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI6G5w7ZQw0

Posted 30 Oct 2013, 00:56 #1 

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Trebor
Wel done gazza that looks a neat job and will be a popular mod i reckon
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Posted 30 Oct 2013, 07:47 #2 

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kandyman
Hi Gazza,

Thanks for posting it over here.,

I know you have a for sale thread running on the OC would it be ok to have a list running on here for the members that are not on the OC as I for one would like to put my name down for one.

Thanks
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Posted 30 Oct 2013, 10:33 #3 


dawidd
Cześć, możesz zamieścić schemat układu ?
Hey, you can post a schematic diagram?

Posted 14 Apr 2014, 15:35 #4 

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Bermudan 75
kandyman wrote:Hi Gazza,

Thanks for posting it over here.,

I know you have a for sale thread running on the OC would it be ok to have a list running on here for the members that are not on the OC as I for one would like to put my name down for one.

Thanks



Same here,

Cheers


Mike
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Posted 14 Apr 2014, 16:54 #5 


PaulT
Yes, interested - had this feature on a vehicle I hired once and thought it was very good - no turning the indicators on and then having to turn them off.
Paul

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Posted 15 Apr 2014, 09:37 #6 

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raistlin
I fitted one of these to a friend's car and it is a great idea.

Only problem I could see is that it won't cancel. If you move the stalk you get four flashes even if you change your mind.
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Posted 15 Apr 2014, 09:52 #7 


Mad-Monkey
raistlin wrote:I fitted one of these to a friend's car and it is a great idea.

Only problem I could see is that it won't cancel. If you move the stalk you get four flashes even if you change your mind.


You can't cancel it on my merc either. Annoying if you knock it, and you have to be careful if there are others around that don't misinterpret the signal.

Posted 15 Apr 2014, 20:43 #8 

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Duncan
Most VW group products have it too, now, though three flashes. You can turn the feature off if you don't like it though.
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Posted 16 Apr 2014, 18:34 #9 


PaulT
Without seeing Gazzas circuit diagram could not there be a switch incorporated that turns off the additional components and restores the broken tracks on the circuit board?
Paul

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Posted 16 Apr 2014, 21:00 #10 

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raistlin
PaulT wrote:Without seeing Gazzas circuit diagram could not there be a switch incorporated that turns off the additional components and restores the broken tracks on the circuit board?


You would only need to break the 12volt supply I think.
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Posted 17 Apr 2014, 06:59 #11 


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