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takestock wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong on this gents. Quite simply (you don't need ign on.) If you run a lead from the battery to the small lead on the starter motor the starter motor will engage and turn the engine over ( but it wont start ) if it doesn't engage then the fault is with the starter motor/solenoid. If it does engage them the fault is elsewhere possibly wiring, ign switch or immobiliser.