Electrical advice by mark_bonsai (Page 2 of 2)


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JohnDotCom
But you'd need to thread wiring through FOUR doors



No problem for a man of your talents............... :gmc:

Just think of it as four door mirrors. :twisted:
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 20:05 #21 

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takestock
raistlin wrote:But you'd need to thread wiring through FOUR doors :gmc:

give Rob something to do at the nano meets (you know he loves it) :D
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 20:06 #22 

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takestock
JohnDotCom wrote:
But you'd need to thread wiring through FOUR doors



No problem for a man of your talents............... :gmc:

Just think of it as four door mirrors. :twisted:


Actually John, seeing as you are attending the nano, we could sit you by a door and let you get on with it :) just shout and I'm sure domebody will move the chair to the next door for you :D :D :D
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 20:08 #23 

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raistlin
takestock wrote:
raistlin wrote:But you'd need to thread wiring through FOUR doors :gmc:

give Rob something to do at the nano meets (you know he loves it) :D


You might want to mention that to Ben... from a safe distance :whump: :lol:
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 20:09 #24 

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Duncan
takestock wrote:As John said for a flashing LED (Light Emitting Diode) the pulse is already there as it shows on the dash with the existing flashing LED, just a matter of finding the connection isn't it. Like this idea a lot already.


It will only be accessible on the IPKs PCB (Printed Circuit Board) I would think. The BCU (Body Control Unit) will send a message to start fast flashing, then slow flashing. Then the bus communication will go to sleep, and the circuits in the IPK (Instrument pack (IPK from the German)) keep it flashing.

Unless you really want it to show locking status, easisest is probably to drive a relay from ignition, and supply the Normally closed contacts with battery, the output going to the LEDs. Then the LEDS will light when ignition is switched off (or accessory if you choose)

Don't forget if you buy a standard LED you will need a resistor. 470 ohm is typically right for 12v but does depend on the LED.

LED modules are available with a built in resistor, and attached wiring. You can also get flashing LEDs. Probably all available from fleabay.

The size of the LED doesn't have much bearing on the brightness. You can het ultrabright 3mm ones, or standard brightness large ones. There's not even a big variance in current, but there can be a big difference in viewing angle. I have some on a test rig that have a very narrow beam. They never bother me sat next to them, but people across the other side of the office, 20ft away are always complaining if they are on.

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these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50-x-5mm-Red-Ultr ... 45f8c8ab69
are ones that would do for 12v. Nice clear LED when not on, and seem quite bright. You would need to solder the resistors onto the LED and add wires. You also have to connect them the right way round or they go pop.
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 20:43 #25 

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Re-mapped & Synergy 2 on 9. EGR bypass. De-catted. Pipercross filter & modified inlet. 18" Apex's with 235 Toyo's. ZT190 big brakes & suspension. Xenon projectors. Powerfold bullets. Electric rear sun blind. Auto dipping rear view mirror. Wood and leather steering wheel. Wood handbrake handle. Full leather sports seats. Harmon Kardon speakers & sub. Kenwood DNX7200 double din, amp & Phatbox. Fully chromed front grill.

Posted 03 Mar 2011, 21:27 #26 

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Dallas
Guys! you are all making it to complicated for the poor chap :lol:
.................... all you need is four of these,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260743236412&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D260743236412%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

Wire straight to 12v feed and put a fuse between, even put in a rocker switch for manual operation. If you don't want the LEDS draining your battery then put in a small Solar charger that outputs a trickle charge and keeps your battery in good form, the cost is low for either of these mods.....

Hope that helps guys! :D
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 21:30 #27 

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mark_bonsai
Dallas wrote:Guys! you are all making it to complicated for the poor chap :lol:
.................... all you need is four of these,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260743236412&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D260743236412%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

Wire straight to 12v feed and put a fuse between, even put in a rocker switch for manual operation. If you don't want the LEDS draining your battery then put in a small Solar charger that outputs a trickle charge and keeps your battery in good form, the cost is low for either of these mods.....

Hope that helps guys! :D


I'm quite happy with complicated :mrgreen:

I want to be able to shut the door, press the button to lock it and set the alarm, and for the led's to start to glow. Then when I unlock, for them to go out.
Re-mapped & Synergy 2 on 9. EGR bypass. De-catted. Pipercross filter & modified inlet. 18" Apex's with 235 Toyo's. ZT190 big brakes & suspension. Xenon projectors. Powerfold bullets. Electric rear sun blind. Auto dipping rear view mirror. Wood and leather steering wheel. Wood handbrake handle. Full leather sports seats. Harmon Kardon speakers & sub. Kenwood DNX7200 double din, amp & Phatbox. Fully chromed front grill.

Posted 03 Mar 2011, 21:35 #28 

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Duncan


Duncan wrote:You can also get flashing LEDs. Probably all available from fleabay.



beg to differ ;)
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 21:46 #29 

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raistlin
mark_bonsai wrote:I'm quite happy with complicated :mrgreen:


Not according to your OP :lol:

You could, of course, get some bi-colour LEDs, connect them across the lock and unlock solenoid wires and thus have red LEDS when locked and green LEDs when unlocked :)
Paul

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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 22:05 #30 

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mark_bonsai
raistlin wrote:
mark_bonsai wrote:I'm quite happy with complicated :mrgreen:


Not according to your OP :lol:


Once I know how to do it I'm quite happy to crack on. :thumbsup:

Electrics aren't my forte, and it's knowing how to wire these to do what I want that's past my skill level.
Re-mapped & Synergy 2 on 9. EGR bypass. De-catted. Pipercross filter & modified inlet. 18" Apex's with 235 Toyo's. ZT190 big brakes & suspension. Xenon projectors. Powerfold bullets. Electric rear sun blind. Auto dipping rear view mirror. Wood and leather steering wheel. Wood handbrake handle. Full leather sports seats. Harmon Kardon speakers & sub. Kenwood DNX7200 double din, amp & Phatbox. Fully chromed front grill.

Posted 03 Mar 2011, 22:09 #31 

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mark_bonsai
raistlin wrote:You could, of course, get some bi-colour LEDs, connect them across the lock and unlock solenoid wires and thus have red LEDS when locked and green LEDs when unlocked :)


Ooo, now there's a thought, and would this be easier to wire?
Re-mapped & Synergy 2 on 9. EGR bypass. De-catted. Pipercross filter & modified inlet. 18" Apex's with 235 Toyo's. ZT190 big brakes & suspension. Xenon projectors. Powerfold bullets. Electric rear sun blind. Auto dipping rear view mirror. Wood and leather steering wheel. Wood handbrake handle. Full leather sports seats. Harmon Kardon speakers & sub. Kenwood DNX7200 double din, amp & Phatbox. Fully chromed front grill.

Posted 03 Mar 2011, 22:11 #32 

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Dallas
raistlin wrote:
mark_bonsai wrote:I'm quite happy with complicated :mrgreen:


Not according to your OP :lol:



Thats what I thought! :lol:

...... well! we are all here to help................. I think. :cheers:
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 22:12 #33 

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Duncan
raistlin wrote:You could, of course, get some bi-colour LEDs, connect them across the lock and unlock solenoid wires and thus have red LEDS when locked and green LEDs when unlocked :)


Err, no. Only while locking and unlocking if you do it like that. The power is only applied for a short time to power the motors one way or the other. Once the door is locked / unlocked the LEDs would go out.
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 22:14 #34 

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mark_bonsai
Duncan wrote:Err, no. Only while locking and unlocking if you do it like that. The power is only applied for a short time to power the motors one way or the other. Once the door is locked / unlocked the LEDs would go out.


You see, this is why I come to you guys. Technical knowledge!
Re-mapped & Synergy 2 on 9. EGR bypass. De-catted. Pipercross filter & modified inlet. 18" Apex's with 235 Toyo's. ZT190 big brakes & suspension. Xenon projectors. Powerfold bullets. Electric rear sun blind. Auto dipping rear view mirror. Wood and leather steering wheel. Wood handbrake handle. Full leather sports seats. Harmon Kardon speakers & sub. Kenwood DNX7200 double din, amp & Phatbox. Fully chromed front grill.

Posted 03 Mar 2011, 22:16 #35 

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Duncan
Duncan wrote:
raistlin wrote:You could, of course, get some bi-colour LEDs, connect them across the lock and unlock solenoid wires and thus have red LEDS when locked and green LEDs when unlocked :)


Err, no. Only while locking and unlocking if you do it like that. The power is only applied for a short time to power the motors one way or the other. Once the door is locked / unlocked the LEDs would go out.


With a bit of extra electronics, and a permanent supply, it's a different answer of course. It would need a flip flop circuit, driven by the signals that Paul suggests.
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Posted 03 Mar 2011, 22:27 #36 

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raistlin
Duncan wrote:
raistlin wrote:You could, of course, get some bi-colour LEDs, connect them across the lock and unlock solenoid wires and thus have red LEDS when locked and green LEDs when unlocked :)


Err, no. Only while locking and unlocking if you do it like that. The power is only applied for a short time to power the motors one way or the other. Once the door is locked / unlocked the LEDs would go out.


Sorry Duncan, I made the assumption that the idea was to use the lock / unlock pulses to switch a latched circuit :) :gmc:

I see how my idea could have been misconstrued... oooops.

I think there is a permanent 12 volt supply in each door :confused:
Paul

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Posted 04 Mar 2011, 07:54 #37 

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mark_bonsai
Ordered some LED's today which come with resistors for the correct voltage. I'll see what they look like in the escutcheons then I'm in your hands guys for the technical info on wiring them.
Re-mapped & Synergy 2 on 9. EGR bypass. De-catted. Pipercross filter & modified inlet. 18" Apex's with 235 Toyo's. ZT190 big brakes & suspension. Xenon projectors. Powerfold bullets. Electric rear sun blind. Auto dipping rear view mirror. Wood and leather steering wheel. Wood handbrake handle. Full leather sports seats. Harmon Kardon speakers & sub. Kenwood DNX7200 double din, amp & Phatbox. Fully chromed front grill.

Posted 09 Mar 2011, 23:36 #38 

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LED's arrived today. This is what they look like in the escutcheons.

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Re-mapped & Synergy 2 on 9. EGR bypass. De-catted. Pipercross filter & modified inlet. 18" Apex's with 235 Toyo's. ZT190 big brakes & suspension. Xenon projectors. Powerfold bullets. Electric rear sun blind. Auto dipping rear view mirror. Wood and leather steering wheel. Wood handbrake handle. Full leather sports seats. Harmon Kardon speakers & sub. Kenwood DNX7200 double din, amp & Phatbox. Fully chromed front grill.

Posted 10 Mar 2011, 16:10 #39 


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