75ZT CommunityA social community of enthusiasts, owners, appreciators and collectors. With expert knowledge of all things from MG to Rover and beyond.2014-05-07T19:24:47+00:00https://www.75ztcommunity.co.uk/feed.php?f=2&t=8023&mode2014-05-07T19:24:47+00:002014-05-07T19:24:47+00:00https://www.75ztcommunity.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8023&p=75255#p75255
Jumper wrote: Sounds like a wonderful opportunity for CC to gain a hoped-for pecuniary advantage by paying for it. I say hoped-for. However, I suspect it would be likely to be declined if offered.
Lost me completely.
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]]>2014-05-07T16:10:40+00:002014-05-07T16:10:40+00:00https://www.75ztcommunity.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8023&p=75249#p75249 Drives them crackers.
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PaulT wrote: Always seems strange that Magistrates have to send certain cases to Crown Court because the sentence, if the person is guilty, is higher than they can issue. Seems to send out the wrong message about the abilities of Magistrates.
Could it be about the Crown Court not happy about relinquishing authority and control over perceived 'lesser beings' and reinforcing some nasty prejudices? The voluntary sector being theoretically expendable (or at least those that won't toe the line) and therefore undervalued? Just my cynical view of authority escaping.
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]]>2014-05-06T17:58:46+00:002014-05-06T17:58:46+00:00https://www.75ztcommunity.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8023&p=75243#p75243 Some time ago, Magistrates' Courts were to be given the power to sentence for up to 12 months or 24 months for two or more offences (as a matter of interest, the same as we have now in the Youth Court). It went as far as being incorporated in our sentencing guidelines and some of us had even done the concomitant training courses, until the administration suddenly realised that they have even less control of the Magistracy (being volunteers and beholden to none and so able to totally disregard the blandishments and veiled threats of the executive) than the salaried Judiciary.
Most of the salaried Judiciary were in favour as it would reduce the workload on the Crown Courts but, of course, it didn't happen because the custody estate could not cope.
The upshot of which, is that when a defendant says "They can't send me to prison because they can't afford it.", through gritted teeth we have to agree.
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]]>2014-05-06T16:52:23+00:002014-05-06T16:52:23+00:00https://www.75ztcommunity.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8023&p=75239#p75239 Yes, there are some recidivists for whom the thought of prison holds no terrors.
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raistlin wrote:
PaulT wrote: Perhaps these type of people should be sent to prison BEFORE they kill someone.
We do.
Paul your comment got me thinking about the various reality police programmes and yes, they do sometimes stop banned drivers who are then sent to prison. I suppose they do not mind going to prison so will never play by the rules - no doubt they are still traumatised by their hamster dying when they were two.
Is it me or would we be better off without some people.
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PaulT wrote: Perhaps these type of people should be sent to prison BEFORE they kill someone.