I have been trying hard not to say too much about t'other forum over here...I say enough over there....and feel like a social outcast for daring to ask perfectly legitimate and reasonable questions....the answers to which are important and might lay to rest some of the discontent. I do not feel the need to explain myself here, my questions and comments on the club forum have made my concerns perfectly clear to anyone who wants to listen - rather than shoving their fingers in their ears, their eyes tightly shut, singing la la la la la and hoping it will all go away without anyone requiring anything from them - So instead, I'll tell you what I like about the 75ZTCommunity....in no particular order...
We get treated as adults and get treated with respect and dignity. We get given straight answers. There is no deletion of threads. People don't come on here to release their bile in public just to get a reaction. People's efforts are appreciated here. There are no false promises made. When you ask for something to be done, it gets done or you get an explanation why it can't be done....and we don't feel like we are a nuisance when we ask.
No one uses phrases like 'We'll look into it' or 'It will happen in due course' or 'all in good time'. The people keeping the show on the road care about the cars...more importantly, they care about the members and are in a position to demonstrate that. The structure here is what one might call 'loose' as opposed to autocratic. The wealth of knowledge here is hugely diverse, the quality of help on offer second to none and we don't pay for the privilege of being able to offer help, advice and support with our cars here.
We aren't embarrassed by 3-4 year old (often empty) web pages on the front end of the site, that sit in monument to inaction, indecision and inertia. We can see how quickly things can be done when people are given free rein. We can see the effort being made. We can understand how things operate because it is transparent, open and accessible (if you want to know something just ask) rather than secretive, paranoid, micro-managed and highly dysfunctional. It isn't perfect but it is evolving and developing as opposed to having become ossified....(in spite of people's best efforts to avoid this.)
RRobson's question 'What would you have done if the new forum hadn't been put into place?' is a good one and the options suggested sensible ones, but it misses the key element - motivation..what motivates people to be there? To post? To organise gatherings? To help each other out? I suspect many people would have remained for the benefit of the members and the friendships they had made...because its the members that count, its the members that make it worthwhile....that people are moving on isn't about the money, it isn't about the broken promises, the many many missed opportunities and lack of interest, it is in fact about people and how they are treated and viewed and how that attitude can be seen and felt.....this isn't anything new.....what is new is that now people have an option of voting with their feet without feeling they are letting their friends down....but as John says the forums could
work alongside each other..... but that requires enough people to make enough noise together over there to make change happen..or to at least wake up more of the membership....so all these comments here are perhaps on the wrong forum.......granted, it may well have no impact and granted the downside of a Ltd Company is that you can't sack the owners....but at least we would have tried.
Other than something like I have described here my own tenacity will shortly come to an abrupt end....because now, people have a choice and it has been the lack of choice that has allowed the directors to behave as they have.... with only the 'awkward squad' occasionally flicking their cornflakes out of the dish to remind them that people DO know what they are doing and CAN (Bus Controller Area Network)
see their inertia and disinterest......so having renewed my subscription through gritted teeth in February....as things stand, it looks unlikely to happen again.